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Full-day K worth Jessamine taxpayers' dollars
Shark88
Friday, September 3, 2010: 8:52 am

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Ms. Dragomir, you can donate from your own personal funds to help the schools out. It is a free country.

$16.50 may not sound like much but over a ten-year period that becomes $165.00 and so on, not to mention the many other taxes people are paying for.

What we actually need are tax cuts.
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Fiscal court buys Nicholasville Cafe building
Shark88
Friday, September 3, 2010: 8:32 am

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So the state is forcing the county to build a justice center?

When does that have to be built?
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Defending First Amendment rights different from endorsing message
tweldon
Thursday, September 2, 2010: 8:25 pm

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For weeks I have grown so accustomed to writing acerbic retorts to Leland Conway’s columns with which I vehemently disagree that I hardly knew how to respond this week when I read Mr. Policinski’s guest column, with which I wholeheartedly agree. For a moment, I was dumbstruck, not sure whether to post nothing as a silent assent or to state my tremendous pleasure at reading a column that is uncharacteristically progressive for the Journal to publish. As a First Amendment purist, I have always aggressively defended a quotation attributed to Voltaire (although I’ve also read that it is incorrectly attributed to him). “I may disagree with everything you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Whether the words of Voltaire or some long-forgotten philosopher whose words were wrongfully attributed to him, I am thankful that the protections contained in the First Amendment permit actions that the majority of Americans might find disruptive, distasteful, provocative, and even un-American. To do otherwise is a slippery slope that would soon permit government-sanctioned religious and social persecution. As John F. Kennedy wrote, “Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one’s own beliefs. Rather, it condemns the oppression or persecution of others.”
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Little Hickman votes to allow alcohol sales at winery
CEandAinc
Thursday, September 2, 2010: 10:23 am

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This has nothing to do with selling wine or booze, this is about embracing the history of this site and the beautiful countryside which even in Jessamine County is slowly being eaten up by unchecked development.
Bluegrass Arts Association
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Little Hickman votes to allow alcohol sales at winery
Christy
Thursday, September 2, 2010: 6:46 am

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I don't think 6 ounces a day per person is going to make negotiating the back roads in this neck of the woods any worse than they already are Shark88. And, they certainly will not be selling the type of products that folks are going to drive all the way out here to purchase, drive out to the end of the drive and drink up before driving back to town because they have a craving that needs immediate attention. Because of our area we are already a hot area for those that drink and drive and they aren't drinking wine!

How often have you drove or road in a car or even been down on Sugar Creek Pike?

Something tells me you know not of what you speak. That is why the vote was restricted to folks that live in this area. Seems we know the folks that will be running the winery and we know our area and we are happy that we are going to be classed up a bit.
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Little Hickman votes to allow alcohol sales at winery
Shark88
Wednesday, September 1, 2010: 10:45 pm

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This rag won't allow permit me to say what I really think about this vote.

No winery or bar could ever survive with responsible drinkers (if there is such a thing).

A thick tongue, eyes that can't focus, and a brain that can't think....

Good luck negotiating the back roads of Jessamine County..
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West Middle resurrects orchestra program
CEandAinc
Wednesday, September 1, 2010: 9:42 am

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Hats off to you guys for looking out for these children. Please get the word out quickly there are many upset families out there....
Teg Evans
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Rugg graduates supervision course
johnpmartin
Tuesday, August 31, 2010: 8:41 pm

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Congratulations! You also did well on the news tonight!
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Woman in critical condition after Friday night wreck
Shark88
Tuesday, August 31, 2010: 10:36 am

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Roads are what we make of them.

With curves and hills, the road itself tells us far more than signs do.

Violate driver expectations? Don't roll the dice when it comes to Chrisman Mill Road.
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Guzzling greenbacks
GiveMeABreak
Monday, August 30, 2010: 5:51 pm

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Shark88, your message makes no sense.
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Woman in critical condition after Friday night wreck
yourstupid
Monday, August 30, 2010: 4:31 pm

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`it wouldnt matter if you put a speed limit sign every 5 ft they still wouldnt do the speed limit,at some point you have to take resopnsabelty for your self,ppl dont watch where they are going the take curves on the wrong side and you are right you take your life in your own hands,but you do that everytime you drive on any road,unless police are put out here and tickets are wrote and fines paid,some lady tryed to pass us right where that last lady was killed over a hill while me my wife and 2 kids where stoped for the mail man she went to, pass a truck came and luckley missed her,people need to drive like they have some common sence,this wreck was maybe because the lady didnt know the road,even though there is a sign,but she had to be speeding,the wrecker company left the windsheild and a bumper hanging on the road sign,SLOW DOWN PEOPLE AND WATCH WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT BE THE ONE WHO KILLS SOMEONE OR THE ONE WHO DIES TO GET SOMETHING DONE OUT HERE....to bad it will have to take a death to get it done
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Guzzling greenbacks
Shark88
Monday, August 30, 2010: 3:22 pm

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Calm down GiveMeABreak....

No doubt a police officer's duty is public safety, i.e., enforcing the law.

Public protection however is altogether another matter, is it not?

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
Those with loaded guns, and those who dig.
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Woman in critical condition after Friday night wreck
motocat
Monday, August 30, 2010: 1:38 pm

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Will someone please do something to improve the safety of Chrisman Mill Road? Not one speed limit or caution sign, people speeding and driving too fast for conditions, and drivers veering into oncoming traffic lanes (as well as pulling trailers that swing over the center line.) We are almost taking our lives into our own hands every time we need to come into town!
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Guzzling greenbacks
GiveMeABreak
Monday, August 30, 2010: 11:37 am

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Oh and one last thing. The police department accounts for 38% of the city fleet and 33% of the fuel costs. The numbers look kosher to me.
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Guzzling greenbacks
GiveMeABreak
Monday, August 30, 2010: 11:30 am

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Are you kidding me? What I want to know is what is wrong with you people? Why is it that this newspaper and every flipping criminal in this city bash our police department? What happened to FAIR AND BALANCED reporting??? Liberal BS is what I’m reading! Furthermore, this simpleton above me with the name “yourstupid” should be pointing the finger at himself. It’s “you’re stupid” and yes, you are stupid.
With all of that aside, let’s get down to business here. Conventional WISDOM, yes wisdom, clearly points out that it takes money to run a police department. Guess what people, they DRIVE FOR A LIVING! Driving takes gas and gas takes money!!! These men and women go out on a daily basis for 10 hours a day to protect you! A lot of them are even former military. Do you rag on the military for how much gas they use? No. Why? It’s because you praise them for protecting our country. They deserve that praise! Therefore, please explain to me why you’re ragging on our police department for doing what they need to do to protect you sorry ingrates?
The fire department has “consistent” fuel costs because they sit at the firehouse until a call goes out. Comparing the police department to the fire department is like comparing the likeness of handcuffs and fire hoses.
Furthermore, our police department is told not to use their vehicles for personal reasons. They don’t! And if in the off chance they do, SO FLIPPING WHAT! We have 60+ officers with 60+ cars in use. I would wager that the vast (98%+) majority of the costs incurred for fuel ISN’T for personal use.
This article is on the heels of a letter to the editor. Jessamine Journal should be ashamed. Articles such as these that obtain little information and single people out, such as Officer Ritchie, are obvious personal attacks. If you want to talk about how much fuel the city uses, your article should be more in depth. You have intentionally sparked comments that are not informed.
Finally, as I stated previously, it is the job of our officers to drive around our city. That’s called proactive policing. Where would our city be if our police department wasn’t PROACTIVE? Would this city rather our officers sit at the department until they receive a call? Use your heads people. Oh and, Jessamine Journal, try putting out quality, detailed, informational reports rather than the one-sided mess that this article represents.
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School board votes for no tax increase
Shark88
Monday, August 30, 2010: 8:24 am

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KYTrading...I'm not LIsa, I'm not Leland, and I'm Not In Love....so don't forget it.

School board positions probably pay a small salary but no idea what it is.

Be nice if all elected officials declined a salary. It would be even nicer if they served one
or two terms and then went back to a real job.
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Oh, Sam — your lovely roses do prick fickle souls
golfgirlky
Sunday, August 29, 2010: 7:47 pm

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Miss R. Dragomir, I loved reading your story about Sam's club. I thought it was cleverly written. I think your husband was not alone in waiting for the grand opening. Keep up the good work.
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School board to decide on tax rate
CommonSense01
Sunday, August 29, 2010: 3:16 pm

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If the Jessamine Journal chose to investigate, this is what its reporters would find out about the salary structure of Jessamine County teachers and Superintendent Lu Young. A database exists at the Kentucky Department of Education that lists the 2009-10 salaries for every school district superintendent in the state. Jessamine County Superintendent Lu Young's $140,000+ salary is the 19th highest among 176 school districts in Kentucky. At the same time, the average salary of classroom teachers in Jessamine County schools is 22nd LOWEST of any district in Kentucky. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?????
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School board to decide on tax rate
jc68
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 2:45 pm

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In case you missed it, click the link below for the school administrator and teacher salaries.
http://www.jessaminejournal.com/stories/2010/07/20/0720_Jessamine-Schools-Gross-Pay-2009-2010.pdf

Also the chairman and vice chairman are stepping down from the Board of Education, I wonder why?
http://www.jessaminejournal.com/stories/2010/08/24/thw.661273.sto
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School board to decide on tax rate
CommonSense01
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 2:02 pm

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Mark Twain is quoted as saying, "God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board." I don't know who's driving this ship, but it seems to me that the tail is wagging the dog. It's my understanding that Superintendent Young is supposed to work for the elected Board of Education. It seems that it's working the other way around. Wonder when the Board will demonstrate some backbone and leadership and take charge of this ship that seems to be floating aimlessly at the moment.
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School board to decide on tax rate
hls1209
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 1:27 pm

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Plaintired-I could not have said it better myself! Why doesn't the Journal follow up on the questions you raise - how many positions have been eliminated? At the beginning of the year, Ms. Young predicted it would be approximately three years before a tuition system would need to be in place. Why now has it been moved to next year? Anyone know? Plain and simple - she wants money to do it HER way, and to heck with anyone asking her questions. Seems like the board members have not asked any questions over the last 5 years this project for full day K at the JELV was in place - and only now are they seeing the numbers not add up.

My daughter is at the Village this year, by the way, in Kindergarten. Her classroom, while very nice, has two non-working computers. Her breakfast prices and lunch prices were raised (prior to school year start). They are asking for parent volunteers in the cafeteria at lunchtime because there is not enough staff to help all the children eat in their 20 minute allotted time. They are so overcrowded presently that the rumor is they are trying to hire two more teachers. What happens in a few years when they outgrow the building they are in now? Let me guess.....raise taxes again?

Things at the Village are a mess, plain and simple. Forget more funding for full-day next year and concentrate on making it TOLERABLE for the children that are there this year. And if that cannot be done, go back to half-day!
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
CommonSense01
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 9:52 am

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Wilmore Skeptic - Thank you for taking time to research the subject, use data to support your position and make a well-reasoned argument on your posting. I was not aware of that information, but it helps to support the notion that government-imposed conservation measures can be beneficial to ALL of us - even conservatives.
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
Wilmore Skeptic
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 8:58 am

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One important bit of information that Mr. Conway neglected to mention in his article is the main reason Cleveland took the step to institute the new recycling policy - it saves taxpayers money! Quite simply, Cleveland pays $30 a ton for garbage dumped into landfills, but earns $26 a ton for recyclables. So even if you don't get excited at the prospect of saving all that wood pulp, petroleum and aluminum, not to mention the energy used to manufacture them from raw materials, the savings to taxpayers should make any fiscal conservative's heart warm to the idea. Cleveland is experiencing hard times right now, and this policy will allow them to greatly reduce the cost of grabage disposal - it makes sense to me.
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Helton pleads guilty again
speakmymind
Saturday, August 28, 2010: 8:19 am

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this 2nd trial was a complete waste of money.
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
tweldon
Friday, August 27, 2010: 7:17 pm

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I got a sense of the laughts and giggles reading Shark88's comments. Liberalism is evil. Big government is wrong. And now, it appears, Jesus is coming soon. I'm surprised you haven't been offered a talk show on either Fox News or Clear Channel. As you offer almost nothing to support any of your positions, I won't waste my time (or your's) asking questions or pointing out your obvious lapses in logic. However, I do have one legitimate question that's been eating away at me for quite some time now. I toss it out either for you, Shark88, or for anyone who wants to take on this question. I keep hearing about the evils of "big government." At what point does government become too big??? Seriously!!! Think about this. We all want excellent education for our children, don't we? We want good roads. I don't see a huge movement to cut military spending, although if it were up to me that would be the first place to cut. Homeland security seems to be a sacred cow with conservatives. Almost all of us are going to rely on social security at some point in our lives. I know that many conservatives would love nothing more than to cut social programs, but that's just a drop in the government's fiscal bucket. So, my question for you, Shark88 - or anyone else - is this: If you think government is too big, where do you cut??? I realize this posting began as a response to Mr. Conway's initial posting about government efforts to protect the environment. I suppose that's the answer. Let's let corporate America pollute as much as it wants without any government regulation and we will no longer have a problem with big government, right????
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Colts roll over Madison Southern
zclightning
Friday, August 27, 2010: 4:44 pm

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mr. kleppinger, why didn't you ask the coach why he authorized two onside kicks in the last 8 minutes already up 42-0? that is piling on and poor sportsmanship, and sets a bad example for the kids.
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School board votes for no tax increase
kentuckytrading
Friday, August 27, 2010: 2:23 pm

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Shark, I mean Leland, or whomever you are, I agree. The officials should fear their constiuents IF they want to keep their elected positions.

Sorry for the passionate thank you, too many frosty adult beverages last night and not really the information that I have today.

Is a school board member a paid position?? Do you know, because I really don't. IF it is, I have always had a problem with that because it simply seems to be a conflict of interest. If I were to run for ANY political office I could not take a salary for it, just because it seems improper.

Please don't take the Leland comment the wrong way, I really admire him.
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School board votes for no tax increase
Shark88
Friday, August 27, 2010: 2:07 pm

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KYTrading...we are suppose to be a government of the people, for the people, and by the people...

Who is at the mercy of who?
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Wilmore looking for residents to adopt soldiers
KDavis
Friday, August 27, 2010: 12:24 pm

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This is my one of my son's CO.
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
CommonSense01
Friday, August 27, 2010: 12:39 am

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I neglected to mention one thing Shark: You stated, "None of their nonsense decisions would ever have a prayer at the ballot box in front of right and decent thinking people who have some true common sense." This seems to be an all-too-common theme from you and others who have posted against what I have written in the past. You suggest that the majority is always right. I need go further than Jim Crow laws, bans against interracial marriage and other blatant civil rights violations during my lifetime and my parents' lifetimes as evidence that if decisions were made by people at the ballot box instead of by judges, it would be a catastophe for civil liberties in this country. How you can possibly suggest that judges are wrong and the majority is always right is an incredible statement that demonstrates a lack of 'common sense' that I don't think I've ever read in any posting on this or any other Website.
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
CommonSense01
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 10:19 pm

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Per your usual posting, Shark, you use absolutely no data to support your position. Give me some hard facts and I'll pay attention. (I probably won't agree with you, but I'll at least listen to what you have to say.) Using nothing but superficial sentimentality is the weakest form of argument. My posting had little to do with whether I'm a liberal or conservative. It had everything to do with rebutting Mr. Conway's claim that the Center for Climate Strategies was trying to force mandates on us, when in fact they are proposing incentives - just the opposite. As I said, take time to read the Website and respond using some hard data, not just your unsubstantiated opinion.
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School board votes for no tax increase
kentuckytrading
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 9:49 pm

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Praise to you, school board. I know first hand from running my business that decisions like this are tough, after all the money will have to come from somewhere. But, you had the intestinal fortitude to say NO to the easy way out. Voters please take note. The incumbents did us all a favor this time. Thank you so very, very much.
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Shark88
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 2:54 pm

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Commonsense01....everything you say is most commonly nonsense.

Each to his own, including self responsibility. What we don't need is bigger government,
more regulations, laws, and taxes. Seat belt use for example should be regulated by the insurance companies. An insurance company can require a policy holder to wear a seat belt or else not be covered in the event of an accident. I believe GEICO requires its policy holders sign a statement saying they will wear a seat belt. Government is not the solution, it is the problem.

Liberal idealogy, is a failure and always will be. It would be essentially non-existent in our government if it wasn't for a bunch of liberal judges who pride themselves on legislating from the bench. None of their nonsense decisions would ever have a prayer at the ballot box in front of right and decent thinking people who have some true common sense.

Global warming, like evolution is nothing more than a theory i (it is actually a big lie in the eyes of The Almighty) and will remain that way til The Lord returns. The seasons will continue as they have for
thousands of years and you will never ever see an ape evolve in to a human being.

The love of money is the root of all evil. Please, Commonsense01, just follow the money trail when it comes to global warming, evolution, and overbearing government regulations. The evil lies being perpetrated on the pubic are nothing more than money grabs for the liberal elite to finance their so called progressive machine.

Follow the money.
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Wilmore OKs random drug testing
Shark88
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 2:28 pm

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Get off dope and get hope!
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Bleep! Blurp! ‘Smart trash can,’ choice recycling don’t compute
CommonSense01
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 1:00 pm

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Mr. Conway, did you ever get this story wrong!!! But then, what else is new? Readers, please, please, please with sugar on top, go to the Website for The Center for Climate Strategies (http://www.climatestrategies.us/) and read for yourself what they stand for. Mr. Conway must have been struggling with his column this week and so he grabbed a headline that Rush or Glenn Beck was talking about. Once you’re on their Website, click on the link on the left side of the page that takes you to their mitigation strategies. You will see that, among the many progressive measures the Center has proposed to preserve and improve our environment, are incentives – not mandates, as Mr. Conways suggests – such as tax credits for energy savings and incentives for retrofitting existing residential structures. The organization calls for reducing energy use by 10 percent in state-owned buildings. (I would have thought Mr. Conway might have supported measures that cut government spending, but apparently not.) And it calls for government to lead by example through design and construction of facilities.

Once again, Mr. Conway has provided a one-sided, inaccurate column that is rife with scare tactics and untruths, even more than half-truths. First, you describe the UN Panel on Climate Change as “discredited.” It’s only been discredited by the extreme right-wingers. The scientific community is largely (albeit not universally) supportive of this report’s findings. Why is it that with the exception of the right-wing movement in the U.S., the entire spectrum of humanity in nearly every other country on this planet accepts that climate change is a real and severe problem that must be addressed??? I just don’t get how a handful of conservatives think they know more about the science of climate change than the vast amount of wisdom from other, more progressive, scientists in this country and around the world? But I’m sure somebody on this forum will answer that question for me!

Mr. Conway, I applaud you for recycling. If you wear your seat belt, I also applaud you for doing that. I applaud you for not driving 100 miles-per-hour down U.S. 27. I applaud you if you refrain from smoking in a public place. (I don’t know if you smoke at all, but if you don’t then I applaud you for that, too.) The point I’m making is that sometimes government has to take actions because what people do, or what they don’t do. Contrary to what you or others may think, it IS my business if the man or woman sitting at a table next to me in a restaurant wants to smoke. It IS my business if someone doesn’t wear a seat belt, is seriously injured in a car crash, doesn’t have insurance, and runs up a $100,000 hospital tab, which is then passed along to everyone else who has insurance. It IS my business if you choose to drive your car at unsafe speeds. And finally, Mr. Conway, it IS my business if individuals, corporations and even government operations are conducted in a manner that lead to environmental catastrophe. That’s where government has a valid role to step in and take actions to protect the environment, even if it means taking away a few of those personal liberties that you hold so dear. You might consider it control of our lives by the “green police.” I consider the actions supported by the Center for Climate Strategies to be minimally obtrusive, and using the carrot rather than the stick approach. But don’t take it from me, please check out the Center for Climate Strategies Web site and see for yourselves if their mitigation strategies don’t make sense.
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Guzzling greenbacks
yourstupid
Thursday, August 26, 2010: 8:56 am

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well when you have police driving cop cars to walmart and dropping there kids at school,i have seen them in lexington,they just ride them all over the county,if you are off duty you dont need a car,there are other cops on duty,i see county trucks at fishing holes on the weekend,out hunting pulling boats downt here to the landing at the river or to harrington lake,and they dont care because they dont pay for the gas and oil we do.they dont need to drive them home when their shift is over they should park the cars,the cops should but lights for there own cars and if needed while they are out they can turn their lights on and go where they are needed.
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School board to decide on tax rate
plaintired
Wednesday, August 25, 2010: 6:11 pm

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Superintendent Young should stop creating positions at Central Office and cut the fat there. Another reader wrote recently that the combined salaries of Central Office employees were over $3 million! Cut staff to 2/3rd and the district would have the money to pay for the increase of all day kindergarten. How many teachers were cut across the district in the past two to three years? How many additional teachers did the Early Learning Village have to add? I would bet that the number cut in the past few years is almost equivalent to that number. Young has been preparing for this. Raising taxes is just another way to get more money to fund her pet projects. It's time the constituents of this county contact their board members to stop giving Young a favorable evaluation and raising her pay! She is one of the highest paid superintendents in the state while the teachers, custodians, cafeteria workers, secretaries and bus drivers are some of the lowest paid in the state. Quit raising taxes and restructure the top!
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Guzzling greenbacks
numbertruth
Wednesday, August 25, 2010: 4:01 pm

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The numbers given in the article are misleading. I know on-call personnel for all of the city are required to respond at a moments notice to aid citizens in need. An example would be if a citizen has lost their water or electric I personally would rather it be minutes they could respond as opposed to hours. I am aware of the police presence in the community and this has to help reduce crime. In the article the number of city vehicles are not broken down by department and I feel that would be very helpful in understanding these numbers. I also feel it was unfair to single out one city employee regarding gas usage. I would be interested in an updated story showing the usage per city vehicle. It is confusing to me because I am unaware how many vehicles each department has.
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School board to decide on tax rate
Shark88
Wednesday, August 25, 2010: 2:44 pm

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Hey Kentuckytrading...

Let me tell you how it will be;

There's two for you, eighteen for me.

'Cause I'm the Taxman,

Yeah, I'm the Taxman.

Should ten percent appear too small;

Be thankful, I don't take it all.

'Cause I'm the Taxman,

Yeah, I'm the Taxman.

And you're working for no one, but me!
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Guzzling greenbacks
Shark88
Wednesday, August 25, 2010: 2:35 pm

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Let's see...with those numbers it comes to just over $2,800 per vehicle. The article doesn't indicate total miles driven.

Thought there was a story several months ago where police are using bicycles?

Bring out some electric cars for the police. They could charge their tasers and lasers while they drive.

The politicians set all this up and they will eventually have to begin to dismantle it.
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Clinton speaks at local benefit
Shark88
Wednesday, August 25, 2010: 2:20 pm

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Let us all pass around the peace pipe, or coca-cola and sing kum-by-ya.

Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.
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School board to decide on tax rate
kentuckytrading
Tuesday, August 24, 2010: 4:32 pm

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A few weeks ago we got a good look at how well our teachers and administrators are paid. Now we learn that there was "great hope" for funds from the state in 2006 to pay for a full day kindergarten. You tax our insurance, you tax our utilities. Too bad we can't fire some of you folks at the next election. MANAGE YOUR MONEY BETTER, WE ARE BROKE TOO! I own property in this county, GET YOUR HAND OUT OF MY POCKET!
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Clinton speaks at local benefit
seeker
Tuesday, August 24, 2010: 3:15 pm

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Tweldon,

Despite our differences of opinion, you at least try to keep the arguments above the belt. Always glad to debate issues with you.
I must only run into the majority of the 1.6 million registered democrats when I am out because all I heard for the 8 years Dubya was in office is how the Democrats would have been running the country!!! As far as the state being leaning more towards the Democrat side, I was talking a bit more Statewide and local than National level on who controlled the state and who historically controls the state. You are correct on the National level. GASP!
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Sam's Club opens in Nicholasville
lwilliams
Monday, August 23, 2010: 11:57 pm

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Now, lets all go out in droves to by tons of junk we don't need at incredibly cheap prices at walmart on steroids.
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Clinton speaks at local benefit
lwilliams
Monday, August 23, 2010: 11:45 pm

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If y'all quit bantering back & forth w/ the lack of 'commonsense' around here.... It might just go away.
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Clinton speaks at local benefit
tweldon
Monday, August 23, 2010: 12:44 pm

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Well this is bizarre. My one and only posting on this thread was incredibly restrained - at least by my standards. I didn't attack anyone or anyone’s beliefs. I didn't even take an issue on the position of whether former President Clinton's visit to Jessamine County was an exciting event. I didn't take issue with anything that anyone wrote, and I still managed to have three people give my posting a low rating. To me that demonstrates that there are right-wing readers who automatically criticize someone they know is a liberal and they don't want him/her posting on this forum, even if the posting is done in a polite, respectful and restrained manner. There’s a phrase where I come from to describe that. It’s called being extremely intolerant and closed-minded.

So, if I'm going to get low ratings for my postings, I suppose I might at least have some fun while doing it. I could start out with Shark88's latest posting, but that’s too easy. Besides, if I were to take off on some of her comments, it would ignite a thread of postings that would make this ridiculously intense and silly debate over an innocent remark by dscottfr (see, I’m chiming in here against CommonSense’s initial reply to dscottfr. Don’t I get at least one gold star for that, people????) appear tame in comparison.

Instead I will limit my comments to one point seeker made, which CommonSense alluded to in his most recent posting. Kentucky is a red state. And whether Kentuckians vote Republican or Democrat, they vote conservative. I believe CommonSense called Kentucky a “conservative” state in the previous posting you referred to, seeker. He did not refer to it as a “Republican” state, although I believe there is an abundance of evidence to suggest that it is the latter as well. I would challenge you to find a single national political analyst - whether from Fox News or MSNBC, the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times, who would not consider Kentucky to be a solid red state. Also, one thing CommonSense neglected to mention is that four of Kentucky’s six Congressional members are Republican and the state senate is solidly controlled by Republicans. Although Kentucky has 1.6 million registered Democrats and a little more than 1 million registered Republicans, I don’t see those numbers making much difference on election day. I know that at times I goad readers with my comments, and perhaps I should try to be more diplomatic in my postings. However, I hope everyone will take notice that in disagreeing with seeker, I did so in a non-emotional manner. I did not call names. I did not belittle his position. I used facts to support my thesis. OK, let the voting begin. How many votes will I be down in the next three hours? I wonder.
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seeker: I don't define whether a state is Republican or Democrat by the number of registered voters. How long has it been since Kentucky had a Democratic U.S. Senator? When was the last time Kentucky voted for a Democrat for president? And if you look at the Democrats in the state legislature and our very own Congressman Ben Chandler, you will find Democrats who are moderate by any standards - with very few exceptions at the same time you'll find extreme right-wing conservatives in those positions. That's why I said, and will continue to say, that Kentucky is a conservative state - a Republican state.

I was pleased to hear that you dislike extremists from both sides. Although I am a self-professed extreme progressive, I realize my views are out of the mainstream and are going to be attacked. I have respect for those who will attack the extreme right wingers in addition to people with my beliefs. .
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It is apparent that money is more important to the politicians and some citizens than character. Notice Mayor Meyer's comment....'a fan of a former president.....and respect that position, whoever held it,"
Those words say volumes.

Former President Clinton is neither a statesman nor is he honorable.
I'm surprised Corman allowed him to even step on his property and also surprised there were 500 people willing to sacrifice their own integrity by attending an event with Bill Clinton.

Forgiveness is important, but like the tragic events of 9-11, the people are so quick to forget history in this country. Instead of shunning lying and cheating politicians, people are embracing them. This is indicative of the gross moral decline in America.

Yes indeed, the people of America (along with a big boost from the liberal media), elected Bill Clinton not once but twice; in spite of him being an adulturer, a draft dodger, pathological liar, and dope smoker.
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Sunday, August 22, 2010: 11:22 am

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Right wing mob? You got the wrong guy here. I only debate points when they are to the extreme. Get an extreme right winger on here and I will debate him too! In fact, as we get closer to election, plan on seeing my critique of quite a few of the local republican candidates!

By the way, in every poll I can find, Kentucky comes out as a solid Democrat state. You can field a football team it looks like!!! Democrats are definitely in the majority in most of the politcal offices in the state currently and historically so stop with the martyrdom act.
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Sunday, August 22, 2010: 6:27 am

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Thanks for the encouragement and free advice tweldon, but there's no chance of "the mob" silencing me. I'm stubborn enough that the more they try to tear me down the more they build me up. It is, however, regretable that we don't have a "progressive mob" in Jessamine County. If we got all the like-thinkers together in this place, do you think we might be able to field a softball team? Well, at least a basketball team!!! Still, there's something exciting in a challenging way that comes from being the underdog.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 10:40 pm

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I have stayed out of the fray on this posting thread because, frankly, I don't feel that I have a dog in this particular fight. However, I want to tell CommonSense that I know how it feels to be going up against the right-wing mob in Jessamine County. Don't let them get to you. That's the beauty of this forum. It allows us to say what's on our minds, whether popular or not. So even if you get hammered every time you write and post something, don't let the right-wing masses intimidate you. Keep saying what's on your mind. Although there are those who want to make this forum seem like a popularity contest that is judged by who gets the highest ratings, at the end of the day it's all about speaking our minds. CommonSense, you have made some gutsy statements that have been as unpopular as anything I've written. But I hope you won't let the critics scare you away. It's nice to have another vocal progressive ally.
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ROTFL, No not a third grader, but its all I felt you were worth. Speaking of third graders though- you throw temper tantrums like one ;) Now go pull a card, and consider yourself on "red".
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seeker: Your definition of a think tank is not necessarily incorrect. Think tanks generally exist to gather and disseminate information concerning a particular issue. They generally advocate for or against certain positions on issues. However, I would argue that doesn't make them bad sources for information. In many cases - certainly not all - their information is credible, research-based, and respected. The American Cancer Society is a think tank. So isThe American Heart Association. So, if I were to use data from these organizations in a posting concerning banning smoking in public places, would my postings lack credibility in your opinion? We're going to get information from some source. Every source on the Internet is potentially poisoned with bias of some sort. I agree with you that many (perhaps most) policy think tanks provide information about only one side of an issue. The American Cancer Society is not going to have any information that would lead to the conclusion that second-hand cigarette smoke is safe. You may not respect the think tanks where I get my information. I suspect that I would not respect the think tanks where you get yours. But the conclusion I would draw is that just because information comes from a think tank with a Website doesn't necessarily make it inaccurate.
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CommonSense

Finally, you actually debated without slamming your opponents with verbal insults (at for the most part) in the comment starting out:
A little background might be in order. My purpose in posting on the Journal Website.....
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That kind of debate is perfectly accptable in my eyes.
I would take little or know credence about your comment earlier about basing your information of "respected" think tanks. Think Tanks are established for one reason, to support a specific viewpoint. They are not established to be an objective viewpoint in society. They are either liberal or conservative or whatever brand of opinion they decide to support. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_think_tanks_in_the_United_States). They are good for a resource, but only if you are willing to listen to the other sides think tanks too.
CommonSense are you sure you are not Tweldon?
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 11:37 am

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"And I have no more time for you." At last, a bit of good news.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 11:01 am

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Name calling is beneath productive debate. You were the one who mentioned the "intellectual people" you were "surrounded by", I thought maybe they may want to defend one of their own who is getting soundly trounced in debate.
If you take out the name calling and derogatory remarks against other debaters then you have absolutely nothing to say. And I have no more time for you.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 10:52 am

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I never thought I'd reach the day in my life, dscottfr, when I'd be quoting Dubya, but, "I'd rather be right than to be popular." I realize that I live in the most extreme right-wing political area in an overwhelmingly conservative state. I've never once claimed to be in the majority on any issue. That doesn't make me wrong and it certainly doesn't make me or my viewpoints popular. You know what? I really don't care whether or not every posting that responds to something I write is highly critical. As I said in a previous posting - one that you either chose not to read or were unable to read because of a few multi-syllabic words - I enjoy engaging in a spirited debate. If you, ruffian, and the others who engage in these posted sparring matches think for one second that I mind being outmatched four to one; six to one; or 100 to one, then you are mistaken. Bring it on. I don't need any allies. Besides, are you really so arrogant to believe that you and your 'ilk' have a monopoly on right-thinking and those who disagree with your viewpoint should keep their opinions to themselves? It certainly sounds that way. By the way, you accused me in an earlier post of being thin-skinned. If you don't like the name calling, it sounds as if you could stand to develop a thicker skin yourself.
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Knowing many of the wondeful people at the Salvation Army, I am very sorry to hear about the awful morals of some people... If they had been hungry, the folks at the Salvation Army would have done what they could to help them.

A couple of CHRISTmas's ago, someone stole Jesus, Joseph, Mary and the Manger from the INSIDE front window of Habitat For Humanity...

Stealing is wrong... Stealing from a Charity is worse... Stealing from God... Huummm....

I hope these people seriously seek help...
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 9:22 am

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Ruffian: "A little wine with my cheese?????" Please tell me that's not the best you could come up with. Using a trite, overused cliche is the kind of response I would expect from a third grader? Please tell me that you're not a third-grader, because I try to avoid engaging in political arguments with children.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 9:21 am

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You'd think since you surround yourself with "intellectual people" that some of that intellect would have rubbed off on you...sorry, it ain't happening for ya. I'm sure they are terribly embarrassed to be mentioned in your post...even though nobody knows who they are or if they really exist. Why don't you get those 'intellectuals' to sign on and defend you? According to the post ratings, you are failing miserably to get your point across. You do have a point don't you? I mean other than calling people names.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 9:14 am

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Wow! All I said was.. "How exciting...NOT" and you've made all kinds of presumptions about me and "my ilk". That is why I think you are a sour, pitiful human being. Where did you get the idea that I like Rush Limbaugh or Fox News?? Get a brain.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 9:05 am

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Well, dscottfr, for one thing, I surround myself with intellectual people who share my progressive beliefs and I avoid as much as possible coming into contact with political and social neanderthals (no fingers pointed on my part here). That's how I face the world every day. How do you face the world when you're not busy watching Fox News or listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio? Again, you have an amazing knack for concluding that people who oppose your beliefs are miserable sour human beings. That's the sort of faulty syllogism that one would expect from someone like you.
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Saturday, August 21, 2010: 8:08 am

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Common.. Your last post confirms every comment I've made to you. LOL! How do you face the world everyday? What a pitiful sour human being.
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 6:23 pm

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a little wine with that Cheese??????
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 6:10 pm

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A little background might be in order. My purpose in posting on the Journal Website (not that I should feel obliged to defend WHY I post here in the first place) is typically to try to provide some balance to the one-sided right-wing columns that we get each week from Conway and, more recently, Jim Waters. Stating my opinion is not synonymous with “whining” dscottfr. It is clear that you consider anyone who opposes your ideas and opinions as being a “whiner,” which is fairly typical of the closed-minded right-wing extremist viewpoints that so endangers this country, in my humble whining opinion. LOL

I use these posts to reach the following people with my ideas and opinions: 1) people who enjoy participating in an engaging discussion on issues of important public policy; 2) people who have the level of intelligence and analytical ability to be able to support their opinions with facts and not merely vague suppositions (For the record, dscottfr, “How exciting… NOT” does not qualify using this standard); and 3) people who are open-minded enough to concede that on occasion, someone from a different political position might be right. Anyone who had read my postings on a regular basis is aware that I enjoy engaging in a spirited debate. I use factual data from well-regarded think tanks to support my opinions, and I have on the rare instance admitted that I agreed with the opinion of someone from the right-wing (something that I must candidly admit is not easy to do.)

To the rest of you who don’t fall under one or more of these categories, then you are not my target audience. My comments are not directed to you. I don’t care, frankly, if you read them, and I don’t care what your responses say about my postings. I couldn’t care less if you’re a Republican. You can spout all the right-wing political rehtoric that you want, but don’t accuse me of “whining” when I disagree with you, dscottfr. Don’t expect me not to point out your fallacies if you make comments but fail to support them with facts. And most importantly, if you’re one of those Republicanazis who see the world as black and white (your side is always right and the progressives are always wrong), then don’t expect me or any other thinking person to take you seriously.
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 3:08 pm

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hmmm I wonder, does williamjclintonfoundation.org tell how he lied about partial birth abortions and vetoed the bill that prohibited them? See, funny thing here Common- the same group of kiddies that he was speaking to here in Nicholasville, are among the same group of kiddies he thinks she be allowed to be murdered.
No, you don't need any advice Common.And we would never have you censored, we enjoy reading your posts- it reminds us why we are conservatives ;). But isn't it odd that you feel obliged to go into a big old rant over one little statement that wasn't hateful, inflammatory, mean, nasty, or even directed at YOU?
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 1:35 pm

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This will be a pain for me as I have to travel that road twice a day for work but it will be worth it. I know the culvert that they are going to replace and it's about to fall through.
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 9:39 am

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Common Sense,

I went out to the foundation site. Nice slick site with lots of information. Thanks for the tip. In the about us, it says he established the foundation. I am sure he did it out of the goodness of his heart and not as a tax shelter for his wealth. I am sure he is tirelessly there working every day to contribute to his humanitarian effort between all his speaking engagements where he pulls down over $6 million a year (he pulled in over $30 million over a 4 year period after he left office). I am glad they are able to use his name to raise funds and do good things but don't kid yourself that he is doing much of the work himself. Bill is a nice guy and I would sit down and have a chat and a beer with him anytime but I won't kid myself he is doing any of it for mankind's benefit.
Somewhere in your rants are a message, but it is lost in all the vitriolic rhetoric about the various non-Democrat loving responses. You might want to temper your responses by not painting with such a broad stroke because I am an independent not a Conservative Republican. I don't watch Fox, occasionally listen to Beck and the rest to get that side of the story (the liberal media gives me the other side). I don't like either the Democrat or Republican platforms. I make my own informed decisions independent of party lines.
And by the way, I know how to Google for information. I am sure you believe everything you read on the internet. If so, you must believe you just won the British Lottery, someone in Africa wants to give you millions of dollars, and that you can increase your performance in the bedroom without a prescription. None of these are true and there is no way even a prescription will help YOU with the third one!!!
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Friday, August 20, 2010: 9:00 am

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After reading your last post, I can see you have some real problems common....whining's not enough for you, unless you make sure someone hears you whine and then agrees with everything you say. And if I or anyone else doesn't agree with you they should keep quiet. What a sad world you live in common. You have bigger problems than I imagined. But your not getting any sympathy from me ..you just run along, maybe someone will pat you on the head and say "poor baby"...but you won't be getting it here.
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I think all of you just need to get back to your Fox News. You might be missing out on some important Democrat bashing by Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly. To seeker, perhaps a little effort to research the subject might help. Might I suggest going to the williamjclintonfoundation.org. You will see that since leaving office he has fought against Malaria, AIDS and childhood obesity among other causes. He was at the forefront of efforts to raise funding for humanitarian relief after the Haitian earthquake this year. Might I suggest that you learn how to use the google search engine on your computer. You can learn all kinds of fascinating things that way. Finally, I don't need advice from dscottfr about how I might best communicate my opinions, which you clearly don't want to read and probably wish the Journal would censor. I will not "go into my quiet little corner and whine to myself." If you don't want to read what I have to say, I have a perfect solution, dscottft, "DON'T READ MY POSTINGS." They clearly are only going to upset you, and we wouldn't want that, now. Would we?
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Thursday, August 19, 2010: 7:49 pm

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dscottfr, I thought your first post was very charitable ;) Isn't it sad that in the USA liberals already think we should be deprived of our freedom of speech if we don't get all excited over their heroes?
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Thursday, August 19, 2010: 7:40 pm

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I'm sorry Common, exactly HOW did I insult you???
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Thursday, August 19, 2010: 5:14 pm

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CommonSense01...I said in my way that I am not excited about a former Pervert in Chief being in my neck of the woods. If someone so thin skinned as you wants to be upset about that then that's just too bad. Your posts were much more derogatory than mine. You'd serve yourself and your community a lot better if you'd just go into your quiet little corner and whine to yourself. I haven't got time for you.
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Thursday, August 19, 2010: 5:08 pm

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Wow, CommonSense, talk about revisionist history. You only have to look at your first comment to show how far off the deep end you went over dscottr's comments.
I personally respect the office of the President. You don't necessarily have to like the man in the office or as a former president. And thankfully, this is the United States and you are allowed to voice an opinion about the man (what little dscottr said) as long as you do it respectfully. I did not see any disrespect in his one line comment.
I personally was suprised that A: he showed up here in Jessamine County, B: the Lexington H&S was able to afford his speaking fee to make any money off the benefit and C: only 200 people showed up. I thought this was a solid Democrat state? I would have thought at least 1000 people would have shown up.
Not really sure what all Clinton has done for humanitarian causes since leaving office other than filming a few PSAs to help support this charity and that charity or the Haiti relief effort. I do know that he rakes in big bucks running around the country in these various speaking engagements, so he doesn't do it totally out of his goodwill. And before you say anything, I work in several charitable organizations free of charge and donate what money and goods to these causes.
Now if you notice, I didn't attack you. So don't attack me.
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Common Sense - I could NOT agree with you more! The district should be embarrassed that there is a such a large gap in pay between "administrative" personnel and the teachers, assistants, etc. who are responsible for educating our children.
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Ruffian, you don't have any problem insulting me (and my ilk) for "reading a lot" into dscottfr's original post. Then you go off on a tangent and read (incorrectly) between the lines of what I've written. As your so elequently states, Geeshe! I never inferred that you had to worship Clinton like a God and get all excited about his visit. Quite the contrary. I stated in my initial posting that I don't care if dscottfr "hates" former President Clinton and everything he stands for. How on earth you could possibly insinuate from my comment that I feel everyone should diefy him and genuflect in his preseence is a huge leap of logic on your part. My point has always been that there are those in this county who believe having someone of former President Clinton's stature is something to get excited about. He has made some remarkable achievements since leaving office. And for dscottfr to dismiss his visit as "How exciting... NOT" was a totally classless comment that dimished the excitement that some of us felt over his visit. So, ruffian, if you're going to post about my comments, please at least do me the courtesy of not misrepresenting what I write.
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I had no idea that all of this was going on! I think it is a horrible idea to cut the orchestra program. As a former West Student, as well as a former student of Mr. Sikorski as well as Mr. Labarbra and others in the orchestra program, I just don't understand how they could do this to the students. I can't imagine school without it! Aside from the fact that my orchestra teachers were some of my favorite, they taught us discipline and hard work, and that if you put in the time then you will see results. I also know from personal experience that they care greatly for the students in a way that other teachers don’t really get. While I understand that reading and other subjects are important I don’t think that what the schools are gaining by adding stuff there is going to offset the cost of losing orchestra. I feel that the orchestra program helped me to develop more fully as person and it gave me an outlet to express myself that I wouldn’t have had otherwise. I really hope that they reconsider this!
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Congrats Kelly on keeping things alive. Hopefully the school will do their part and make students and their schedules available. The one thing that Jon did not address was all of the kids across the county that showed up at school instruments in hand only to find out they had no class to attend and the fact that no notification was sent to anyone that these changes were even being considered. Sort of sad in this age of advanced communications.
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One of your better pieces, thanks for addressing this. My son is the volunteer coordinator for the Lexington Corp and like you was very disturbed by this action. Sadly I suspect the people that this article was directed at will not see it either through ignorance or lack of caring.
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Common sense- you read a lot into the original comment didn't you? Your description of our "ilk" is really inflammatory and over reaching. Some of us just really don't give 2 beans about Clinton. Its not like we were out picketing him or shouting crass remarks. Geeshe.
Respect? I respect what he's done since leaving office, for the most part. But that doesn't mean I have to worship him like God and get all excited like some obviously do, just because he is my neck of the woods.
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You know, dscottfr, you and others of your ilk always make me think of a famous quote attributed to Plato: "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." I consider you to be heads and tails above your other Republican brothers and sisters in the latter grouping.
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Finally we agree....I don't want to hear what you have to say...another mind numbed obamabot.
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I don't think you really want to know how I feel about your comment. Besides, I don't think the Journal would print it if I did tell you what I really feel about it.
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Thanks for responding, I am glad we were able to talk and as you discovered I advocate for the arts in Jessamine County every single day. The fall out from this decision has already begun, I had two very disappointed children in my office this week along with some very upset parents because of being blind sided by this decision and not being given a voice in their child's education. The arts in Jessamine County Schools pales in comparison to neighboring districts and not nearly enough is being done to keep these programs in our schools. I encourage all parents to contact school administrators and demand that this critical part of education be reinstated as it should.
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Why don't you tell us what you REALLY feel? LOL
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dscottfr: Spoken like a true closed-minded, Democrat-hating, intolerant, insulting, abrasive, debasing, mocking, belittling, reproaching, trash-talking Republican. You need not like President Clinton. You can hate everything he stands for. However, he spent eight years as - arguably - the most powerful person in the world. Since leaving office he has worked on behalf of a variety of humanitarian causes around the world. What humanitarian causes have you worked for, dscottfr????? The man deserves respect, and if you can't show the elected leader of this country respect, he deserves, at the very least, for you to allow those of us who consider his visit to Jessamine County to be something special to enjoy the moment.
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Friday, August 13, 2010: 11:44 pm

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How exciting...NOT.
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Friday, August 13, 2010: 6:09 pm

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Again this year, the Jamboree will extend to the Oak Street / Habitat Corridor. This year will include the Habitat For Humanity Parking Lot and Rockfence Park - where Vendors and food booths will ALSO be available... Contact Habitat For Humanity for discounted booth fees for BOTH areas - 859-881-0045 or 859-881-1906
The Corridor will also include games fun and music all over including JD Legends and Creekside Games and Fun...

Have a Safe Jamboree as it continues to grow again...
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Burglars hit Salvation Army building
shirleyh
Friday, August 13, 2010: 2:16 pm

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It is a freaking shame that someone would steal from a place that helps out people who need the help. I hope they find the person or people who are responsible for this crime.
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6th annual High Bridge Fest set for Aug. 20-22
pattycake
Friday, August 13, 2010: 9:19 am

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This is a wake-up event of our roots of High Bridge. I didn't live in High Bridge but I spent most of my summers there with my Grandparents. We will surely miss one of our members who sang and played the keyboard along with Richard Horton, Dale Horton and Jackie Waldrop. That is Leroy Horton. He passed away last year. He is surely missed by all who knew him from High Bridge. This is a great event to see old friends and relatives from years gone by.
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If dots add up, ‘education’ campaign could win
CommonSense01
Wednesday, August 11, 2010: 8:15 pm

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Mr. Waters’ commentary certainly is quick to point out Kentucky’s poor historical record on education and uses selective facts to support his incorrect conclusion that Kentucky has a “failing” educational system. His commentary states, “Kentuckians have heard so much about the commonwealth’s low educational rankings through the years that they almost have become inoculated against catching a fever for change.” However, let’s look at two measures enacted during the Beshear administration that are considered ground breaking and forward-thinking on a national level. In 2009, Kentucky’s legislature adopted, and Governor Beshear signed into law, Senate Bill 1. This measure was the most important education reform legislation adopted in Kentucky since the Kentucky Education Reform Act in 1990. Among other points, it required the Kentucky Board of Education to adopt more rigorous and globally-benchmarked academic standards to better prepare students for postsecondary education and/or the workforce. In February 2010, the Kentucky Board of Education became the first state in the nation to adopt so-called common core state standards, which have since been adopted by more than 30 states. These standards in English Language Arts and mathematics are among the most progressive education measures to make U.S. students more competitive on a global-scale, and Kentucky – yes, Kentucky – was the very first state to adopt these standards.

Also, prior to the passage of the Kentucky Education Reform Act in 1990, Kentucky ranked 49th – ahead of only Mississippi – in numerous education benchmarks. While still below the national average, Kentucky now ranks 32nd… showing vast improvement in the past 20 years. So, Mr. Waters, you are incorrect in suggesting that Kentucky policymakers have been unwilling to “change” our education system. By the way, the plug for your former colleague Mr. Moffett was not exactly transparent.

Your commentary also demonizes “teacher unions”, even though Kentucky is one of few states without collective bargaining for teachers. While teacher unions might be an easy target for right-wing Tea Party reactionaries, teachers have less political muscle in Kentucky than in most states – regrettably.

Finally, the only solution your commentary offers is a movement to create charter schools. It wouldn’t take much research on your part to show that the 20 year history of charter schools shows their effectiveness is inconclusive at best. Some charter schools in this country have demonstrated high academic results, but among the 5,000 lowest performing schools in this nation, 200 are charter schools. While charter schools are not necessarily a bad idea, it would be a gross error on your part to conclude that they, and they alone, are Kentucky’s hope for educational improvement. …And that, Mr. Waters, is just plain common sense.
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Step back into yesterday
Parkwells
Wednesday, August 11, 2010: 5:02 pm

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My ancestors Mason Singleton Jr. and his wife Nancy Lafon Singleton built and operated this hotel from 1841-1857, when they sold it. During the cholera epidemics of 1848-49 and the early 1850s, people from Lexington would go to the hotel to flee disease in the city.

The Singletons migrated in 1858 by wagons to Texas, with their 10 (of 15 born) children who were still living with them, ranging in age from 23 to 6. They settled first in Burnet Co., where Nancy died. Finally Mason and a later wife (he had a total of four in succession) settled in Travis County, about 48 miles from present-day Austin.
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6th annual High Bridge Fest set for Aug. 20-22
jc68
Wednesday, August 11, 2010: 1:15 pm

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While the event doesn’t happen for another three months, the festival committee is already at work in the area. It is partnering with the county to clean up the area of the river near High Bridge in June,


Where is the proof reader today?
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Wilmore wants to condemn two abandoned homes
ssmith
Tuesday, August 10, 2010: 10:17 am

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Sounds like someone is trying to get something for nothing ......
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Silencing orchestra will have a negative impact on education
Kait
Sunday, August 8, 2010: 9:50 pm

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Wow, that is truly disappointing for, not only these students, but for our community. Not allowing an outlet for this talent is a disservice to everybody. I started music in 4th grade, with Mr. L in orchestra, and switched to band in high school. So disappointing.

Just a note though, UofL students who participate in marching band are awarded a $1,000 scholarship - not more. We have to play at football games (more than were were on holidays last season), and do the KY Derby parade in the spring, in addition to playing at the Kentucky Derby. This is all funded through the School of Music. Pep band, however, is paid for through Athletics.
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Tax reform: An idea worth fighting for
tweldon
Sunday, August 8, 2010: 7:56 pm

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"It is often better not to see an insult, than to avenge it." - Seneca - as found on famousquotesandauthors.com.
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Tax reform: An idea worth fighting for
jc68
Sunday, August 8, 2010: 1:11 pm

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tweldon, nice job insulting me! Actually I found that quote on famousquotesandauthors.com, a better website of quotations than the one you cite. Besides, how the HE double hockey sticks do YOU know how many Churchill quotes I read?
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Tax reform: An idea worth fighting for
tweldon
Friday, August 6, 2010: 12:48 pm

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jc68, nice job taking the first Winston Churchill quotation found on BrainyQuote.com. I at least took the time to read through several others. My personal favorite is, "A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen."
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Tax reform: An idea worth fighting for
jc68
Friday, August 6, 2010: 11:55 am

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A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
- Winston Churchill
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Tax reform: An idea worth fighting for
tweldon
Friday, August 6, 2010: 9:19 am

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Mr. Conway, you state that your tax reform proposal would result in putting "more than $2,500 back into the pockets of working Kentuckians annually. " I would offer the following responses. First, you fail to mention how much your proposal would cost our school systems, addressing social needs, transportation and Kentucky employee retirement systems, which are already in dire condition. I suppose that since you are a self-proclaimed "small government" advocate, these are trivial concerns that we need not worry about. I would also like to point out that - assuming the study to which you refer is correct (an assumption that I, for one, am not ready to make) - your readers should understand that it wouldn't mean an additional $2,500 for EACH of us. As CommonSense stated, elimination of a state income tax would benefit the richest among us. Those who make high salaries might have our taxes cut by that much or more. However, the vast majority of Kentuckians would see much less of a reduction in the amount they pay in taxes. It is untrue to suggest that elimination of income taxes would result in a $2,500 windfall for all of us.

Finally, I am wondering about your Winston Churchill quotation that you call your all-time personal favorite. Funny, but when I conducted a google search for that quote, the only Websites that turned up were the ones for this column where you attribute the quote to him. You would think that if he had actually said it or written it, somewhere on the Internet one would be able to find it. Are you making up quotations to serve your purposes now????
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